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P&WV and the history of the "Westmoreland"

 
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rchgck



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10: 38 pm    Post subject: P&WV and the history of the "Westmoreland" Reply with quote

Great write up on the "Westmoreland" former private car of Henry Clay Frick from 1949.

(Sorry it's several small sections)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rchgck/13591229004/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rchgck/13591229244/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rchgck/13590852205/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rchgck/13590888033/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rchgck/13590888133/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rchgck/13590888213/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rchgck/13591230174/in/photostream/

Scrapped in 1965.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westmoreland_%28railcar%29

Some additional info with photos.

http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31957


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PWVJer



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9: 26 am    Post subject: Business Cars Reply with quote

Interesting stuff on the #300

Can anyone add/update any new car# 400 info? A
past 2005 Hi line post told us this:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 11: 25 am Post subject: P&WV 400

Basically the former #400 is in VERY poor condition. While the car is "all there" the interior has essentially been disassembled.
The former owners were interested in the car because of its ownership by Graham Claytor (as the NEW RIVER 400) and use with the Southern Railway steam program during the early 1970's.
They had elaborate plans to rebuild the car for use on Amtrak. At some point the car had been donated to TVRM in Chattanooga and was used on the property for a while but eventually due to a lack of attention the roof began to leak and the car was moved to storage at the Volunteer Army Ammunition Plant just outside of Chattanooga. Years of neglect took its toll and the car was sold to Steve Ziderveen.
Nothing was done with the car and it was sold again to the group that was going to Amtrak it. The roof leaks had seriously damaged the interior ceiling panels and the typical Pullman corrosion had severly damaged the sidesill along the hallway side of the car but the interior was still in fairly good shape with good windows. They proceeded to gut the kitchen (probably needed as the floor and exterior wall were so bad), strip all of the lighting and wiring out of the car and disassemble practically everything in the car, AND....remove the entire steel roof along with the interior ceiling. Once this was done they did replace all of the bad carlines and rebuilt the roof on each end and had new ceiling panels cut to size from the original Pullman drawings but they didn't put the main sections of the roof back so they couldn't install the ceiling.

At that point they lost interest and the car sat for several years, finally getting a tarp over the top, adjacent to the shop at TVRM (next to the mothballed 4501). Fortunately all of the parts were fairly carefully stored and most everything marked as to where it went. After several years of inactivity the management at TVRM said either do something with it or we will scrap it. That's when I came in and said I would buy the car and do SOMETHING with it so it wouldn't get cut up. At this point the car is sitting on brand new wheels that were put on by the Southern but with friction bearings making a major move impossible without changing wheels. Once shop time and space are available at TVRM a new steel roof will be put on the car and the difficult task of putting the car back together will begin - without the roof there is little use in starting any other work. I have no plans to operate the car -
it will only be for stationary use. The car does still have modern thermopane windows that are in fair condition
(at least they keep the rain out) and as I said above all of the pieces of the car are there and it is a fairly sound structure
except for the side sill on one side.
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jayrod



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 8: 40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can find only one picture of it as Southern 400 "New River":
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=590735
The record says Atlanta, GA in 2006 but that has to be the upload date, not the date taken.

I'll see if I can cough up a contact at TVRM and find any info.
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